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Christians burnt alive by Sunni Muslims in Nigeria

Note: Some commenters in October 2011 tell us that these burnt bodies were victims of a truck accident in the Congo. Whatever the provenance of the picture, it was posted in good faith, and Christians were burnt to death in 2010 by Muslims in Nigeria. See the reports here and here and here.

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Posted under Africa, Arab States, Christianity, Islam, jihad, Muslims by Jillian Becker on Saturday, November 6, 2010

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  • http://www.facebook.com/reynolds.darren Darren Reynolds
    • Jillian Becker

      Yes, yes. read the text, please.

  • http://www.facebook.com/derin.millet.9 Derin Millet
  • Saira_ghaffar

    this happened bcoz of oil tanker dont involve muslims nigerians or any other …………. it was an accident dont spread hate ……………… 

  • Saira ghaffar

    liarz

  • Aten2

    i dnt knw dis p0st is fake or not.. but i fuckn hate muslims.. bloody chopped dick terrorists.. killin people is wat their religion says.. every whr a muslim does somethn and embaress his allah.. i wish this world gets finished in 2012.

    • George

      The post was confirmed by many news sources as accurate and I even sent Jillian a long list of  verifiable and substantiated sources.       I listed a few as well.  It wasn’t a hoax. The people who claim that it was a hoax and said that LEGITIMATE sources regarded it as a hoax never listed the sources.   Furthermore I asked the question many times and NEVER got a sensible or any answer.   Whether it was or wasn’t ——-how come the same photo was on many news sources and yet not one of the people who attacked Jillian Becker and this website with their trolling behavior posted any messages on the other sites or insisted that the same photo and more be taken down from THEIR sites ?  Oh no , but instead they intentionally targeted Jillian Becker and THIS site only. Why ?  Also, why all of a sudden did this website get hit with a barrage of personal ad hominem attacks by trolls within a  24 hour  span when the photo had been up before and later reposted months later ?  Why ? 
                          Also, why did they choose this photo only as if that made them upset ?  If they have so much concern for people and care so much for people then why didn’t they speak out and /or make any comment whatsoever about the article and pictures on ” Muhammad’s command “  article which had a multitude of photos of innocent murdered men, women and little children —all slaughtered by Muslims ?    Where were their voices regarding that ?  Where was their outrage about that ?  Where was their so-called concern about that ? 
                          Where was their outrage on 9/11 here in the USA if they care so f***ing much about people and claim to be against terorism ?   Where were their voices ?  Where were their public denunciations ?  Where ? Show me !   NONE existed —but we are suppose to be so stupid and gullible to actually believe that they actually have some freakin’ concern about the safety, welfare and human rights of innocent people .    Then they have the audacity to question us as being true secular freethinkers just because we are conservative——— claiming that we here on this site are “pretending to be atheists”.     Can you believe this crap ?  All around the world we have Muslims murdering, torturing , enslaving and violating the rights of people world wide and when people point out the obvious , then the same people point the finger at us as if  WE are spreading some kind of hatred and/or propaganda  for simply telling the truth and pointing out the facts.  They know their false claims are  bulls***  but they are on a mission to spread their agenda of taquiiya. There are many  American citizens and many in Europe who are completely ignorant of what is really going on and there are many who do but are affraid to publicly say so——as witnessed with these bogus attacks upon Jillian Becker and this site. It was all an orchestrated and conspiratorial plot to try to discredit this site and Jillian Becker .   I personally spent many hours on the internet and I personally checked out literally DOZENS of articles and NOT one of them claimed that the photo in question was any hoax.   Not one of the trolls that attacked Jillian and this site went on any of the other sites and insisted that they remove the same photo from any of their sites . Why ? There were even more explicit photos of the same incident and no response from any of the trolls that attacked Jillian and this site .  Again—why ?   They lied and then called us liars. They attempted to push their propaganda upon us while all the time labelling us as propagandists.   I also personally spoke to certain contact sources who have knowledge of this and it was indeed confirmed as accurate. There was just recently a suicide bomber that rammed a vehicle killing 17 people and total silence from the same people who attacked and tried to smear Jillian and this site.   The last article that I read on this website listed over 17,000 acts of terrorism which have occurred worldwide ——— and yet where are the voices denouncing these horrific , savage , and barbaric acts ?   Where are they ? Show me !   The silence has been deafening !  These people actually think we are stupid because they have gotten away with fooling so many others for far too long.
                          The photo in question was an actual picture of the aftermath of a Muslim riot that occurred in Katuna, Nigeria ( Northern Nigeria ) in which Muslims became outraged that a  Christian had won the national election to the Presidency  . The Muslims had burned at least 40 churches, and also shot many people to death and hacked many to death .  Then the trolls claimed this was a tanker truck fire . It wasn’t . That was a totally separate incident . The tanker truck fire was the result of a large tanker fuel truck that had leaked massive amounts of fuel and then caught fire ( I don’t know if accidental or intentional ) and then an explosion occurred in which 220-230 people were burned to death and this occurred in the  Congo. These were two separate incidents, at two separate locations and at two separate times .
                                Where were the comments of the man being beheaded while alive in the streets in te Middle East which was posted on this site ?  Where were the comments about the young women who were allowed to burn to death at a Muslim school when the school caught fire and the Muslim men blocked the doors and would not let the women out because their heads were not covered and so they let them die  horrible deaths . Where was the so called CONCERN ?  Where ? Show me .  Where was the concern regarding the video posted on this site of the three Muslim women hanging from a crane because they engaged in a PEACEFUL public protest regarding the rights of women ?    Where was the outrage by those claiming that they are so  f***ing concerned ?  Where were their comments ?  Tell me !  Show me ! Where were the comments regarding the photo of the tank running back & forth over a peaceful protester smashing the man’s body flat as a pancake ? Where was the CONCERN about this.      We had actual video footage and I   guess next we will be told that  it was fake and a hoax. Yeah–right !  Where were the outrage comments from those who claim to be so freakin’ concerned ? Show me  ! Tell me where !   Where was the concern about the young Muslim woman who said she wanted to choose the man she wanted to marry and when a cab driver overheard her comments , he reported her to one of the local mullahs and the village people including family members grabbed her and threw her into a trench like hole and burried her alive. When the mother of the young lady tried to intervene to save her daughter’s life they shot her .    Then there was the picture on the front cover of a major American magazine of  a young Muslim woman who had her nose cut off  after she tried to escape her in-laws that were physically abusing her .  The local mullahs joined by the woman’s husband caught her and cut off her nose leaving her to die and some soilders later found her and took her for medical treatment and saved her life.   The photo showed the face of the local mullah smiling and said it was justified becasue it was within Muslim culture.  Where was the outrage by those claiming to be so f***ing concerned ? I guess next the will say that  was a hoax.  I can recite a multitude of terrorist incidents, murders, tortures  and horrific human rights violations —and yet all will be ignored by the same people who proclaim to be so f***ing concerned .  And yet we ( atheists )  are accused of being the haters for telling the truth and pointing out the facts and the obvious.   It makes me sick to my stomach when I see what is going on and yet people who claim to care so much about humanity are so silent and attack those who point out the truth and the obvious.
                              As I have also stated before, the fact still remains and that is NOWHERE around the world do you find atheists engaging in any acts of terrorism , violence or human rights violations and yet atheists are the most hated group in America —- all because we don’t embrace superstition and mythology  and we do not believe in the invisible and imaginary  Daddy In The Sky.  It’s sickening and pathetic and yet this is what the human race has evolved to .     Here we are living in the era of the Space Age and yet supposedly intelligent grown up adults are still believing in ancient indoctrinated folklore and fairy tales.  It is no wonder
      that the world has gone mad !

  • Allwynedna

    its better & wise to check FIRST what the snaps or all about than posting it to create havoc,hatred & confusion…

    • George

      No one here created any havoc, hatred or confusion. I have personally checked dozens of sites on the internet for hours and  saw the same photo and others which included not only the charred bodies , but people shot to death , and hacked to death and I did an objective research inquiry and reported specifically what I found.    Everyone who has posted on this website criticizing Jillian Becker , and the site and a few of us for responding in kind  made absolutely NO attempt to spew any hatred whatsoever toward anyone but simply presented the situation as it actually occurred.   
                      Then all of a sudden a bunch of trolls came onto the site  ( all within  a one day time span – which certainly was not a coincidence ) and attacked the host and the site yet had absolutely NOTHING whatsoever to say about the multitude of other sites that had the same photo and more photos in total detail. 
                      Then people came on here lying claiming that this was some fire from a truck explosion . Not only did Jillian research that but so did I.  I found verification that these were two separate incidents altogether  and neither were related –this was substantiated by verified mainstream media outletts as well.    
                       The charred bodies photo that some are in such an uproar about was the result of a Muslim riot that occurred in Katuna, Nigeria ( Northern  Nigeria ) as a result of Muslims becoming enraged that they lost the national election to a Christian for the presidency.   The tanker truck explopsion actually occurred in the  Congo and it was the result of a large tanker  fuel truck that had leaked massive amounts of fuel, then caught fire and exploded whereby 220-230 people burned to death. These were confirmed as being two separate incidents at two separate locations at two separate times . When Jillian first got attacked by the trolls she actually thought sincerely that she was in error , an even apologized taking their  word of the complainers. I then did research and told the commenters that if I had found that Jillian was wrong that I would state such and even I would apologize and even ask that it be removed.   it was later confirmed that he photo was true and accurate and was on other sites as well. My question still remains and has NEVER been answered and that is why is it that no one has bothered to send complaining messages or comments to any of the other sites that have that same photo and more and yet they go out  of thier way to single out Jillian and this website while giving all the other sites with the same photo a free pass and  are ignored ?  Why  ?   I’m still waiting for an explanation.   I know why. It was a persoanl attack upon Jillian and this site.  Then when I came onto the comment page and explained what actually happened , Jillian and I both were called vicious names and when I reciprocated and gave the same individuals a taste of their own medicine they tried to make it appear as if we are being hateful and this in itself was a blatant lie and a conspiratorial and orchestrated attempt to try to sabotage our civil discussion forum and discredit this site and the host .
                          The first website I checked had the same photo with a full page in detail hi def picture and followed up by not only burned bodies and  bodies shot to death and hacked to death and yet not one person who has come onto this site attacking Jillian , the website and a few of us had anything to say about the other sites featuring the same thing and more .  Some of the sites were major media sources and there was total silence on that but they targeted Jillian only and the same thing is going on with this post from you that I am responding to. I personally checked literally dozens of sites for hours until late at night.
                            The people attacking Jillian and this site started this mess in the first place.  And for the sake of argument , if it did turn out that it was in error , they could have simply come onto the site , pointed out their complaint , and stated why and how they know otherwise and let us investigate and just keep it civil.  They didn’t do that , but instead they came upon here with their virulent ,  defamatory and insulting attack upon the site and the host and then got obnozious and vile when we stood up for what we have confirmed as the actual truth.   When Jillian researched further and checked out the many sourcs that I sent her , she then realized that she was right after all and has nothing to apologize for , but rather the people who have attacked her owe her an apology.   Jillian was called coward and I was called a rabid dog after  we responded to the virulent and hostile upon us and the site.  Jillian is one of the most bravest women anywhere and has more guts in one hair on her head than the trolls that attacked her have in their entire bodies. I’m use to name calling and tha is the tactic used by liberals  who can’t express themselves intellectually and then when we reciprocated and “fired back” theyb ried to make it appear that we are the haters . What a bunch of bulls*** !  The harassing trolls got a taste of their own medicine and then had the audacity to cry foul when they were called out for being the true liars and deceivers and hate-mongering bigots.
                          I have been posting on this site for a very long time and everyone who has been on this site for some time know that when I am in error that I immediately apologize and correct my error and this is a confirmed fact by witnesses  to my posts.  These people really pissed me off as  well as others and we had a civil dialogue going on before the vicious attack by the lying trolls calling us liars. If they had been civil right from the start and made an inquiry and asked questions , we would have responded in kind and this exchange could have been avoided altogether . They started this —not us  !   If you have any questions on this matter , I would be happy to explain and engage in dialogue with you as long as you keep it civil .     They were the ones who created this fiasco  ( not us ) .  I have verified , substantiated and offered proof evidence to back up my statements .       I’m  still waiting for those who are on this site attacking Jillian and the website to post on the other sites as well but I’m certainly NOT going to hold my breath !!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Mrod3910
  • Sekertekin Muhammed

    I saw this one on the news but its not about muslim vs christians this is Fake…. muhammed sekertekin

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ken-MacMillan/683031628 Ken MacMillan

    I hate islam as much as the next guy but honesty & accuracy are the most important things.
    http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/africa/07/03/dr.congo.explosion/

    • George

      Just as you have stated Ken , I never claimed that I know 100 %  that the original photo was or wasn’t accurate or not.   By the same token I also asked the question —how do we know if the latter presented link that states otherwise claiming that it was an explosion is also accurate ?   I simply asked a question and NEVER got  a sensible rational answer. 
                      I spoke to a gentleman acquaintance of mine ( ex-Muslim ) who would be considered an apostate and he advised me to not fall for the orchestrated tactics of  ” ‘stealth Muslims  ” who come  onto a website ( any website ) and engage in tactics to try to sabotage a discussion forum to silence people exposing what is actually going on.  As I stated before –I cannot prove that the original posted photo is a terrorist act or not , and by the same token those who posted a link claiming the later posted LINK  is accurate can’t prove that is accurate  as well.
                            Furthermore  , why is it that all of  a sudden  a bunch of people suddenly within  a 24-hour time span decided to come upon The Atheist Conservative website  and become enraged about a singular photo ?  Where was the outrage about the article  [ Muhammad's command ] where people ( including little children ) where cut and hacked to death by Muslim radicals ? Why was there TOTAL silence regarding that ?  Where was the outrage ?  Where was the denunciation regarding that horrible mass-murder ?   Where were the screaming voices ?  Where were the outraged posts ?
                            Also , where was the outcry regarding  the previous articles on this website about the citizens that were murdered by Muslim soilders and they planted guns around the dead bodies ?  Where was the outcry on the article about the man who had his body mangled and his face smashed flat after being run over by an armoured vehicle ?   Where was the outrage postings about the people living in a tent camp and Muslim soilders stormed in and shot & killed ALL the people  present on sight who were doing nothing wrong  ?    In the article  [ Muhammad's command ] , I guess we’ll hear next that those deaths were the result of an explosion in a kitchen that caused a bunch of knives to fly through the air cutting these people up accidentally . Why is it that suddenly a bunch of people bombarded  The  Atheist  Conservative  website in a blitz attack upon Jillian Becker and her blog but had absolutely NOTHING to say on all the attrocious mass-murders posted here prior ?  Explain that one .  When I saw all these posts attacking Jillian Becker  ( and also myself  ) I became very suspicious and the ” RED FLAGS ” went up.  Then it dawned on me , that the chances for a bunch of people to accidentally stumble upon this website and then suddenly post  a bunch of attacking posts withing a short time frame within  one-day  is probably one in a million chances and is obviously an orchestrated plot to discredit the host , the website and to silence the presented material .  It is evident that someone came upon the site and saw the photo , became upset and then notified their cohorts who joined in and logged onto the website and launched a blitz attack upon the host.  Now , having said that  I will repeat what I have said numerous times already—-      I do not know for an absolute fact if this was a fire or riot attack . I was NOT there and I have no way of confirming either side.  At least I am being honest here and not jumping on some emotional personal attack agenda.    I am going  to check further as I have stated before on this matter and if turns out that it was a tanker explosion I will indeed acknowledge  such and if it turns out that it was indeed a terrorist riot attack  I will indeed acknowledge that as well.    I wonder if others will do the same.   I’m certainly not going to hold my breath .  The other question is how do we know for a fact what news source is 100 % reliable ?   This applies to the original photo posted and any link photo that suggests otherwise . Someone could have supplied a major mainstream media news source with false information claiming a tank explosion just as someone could have supplied that it was the result of a riot.    The argument could be made BOTH ways . People are going to believe what they want to believe and objectivity is thrown out the window.   Why wasn’t there any outrage at all the multitude of other photos and articles presented on The  Atheist Conservative  ?    Why just this one ?     Are all the people criticizing this photo  so UNCONCERNED about all the other attrocious deaths presented while  claiming to be so darn very overly concerned ONLY about this one presented photograph ?      So much for CONCERN  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Mel

    Legitimate news organizations have  exposed this post as a hoax. The only reason for the post is to perpetuate hate and violence.

  • Guest

    This post is a lie.

    See the real story, including this image:

    http://www.afrik.com/article20308.html

    Written in French, it is quite easy to translate:

    The explosion, on July 3rd, of a tanker in the locality of Sange, in the South-Kivu, as a Democratic republic of Congo (DRC), made 235 deaths.

  • DUDE91

    wtf sunny…….i was Malaysian i dint if this article was some agenda or not….i was Christian here….we are not has any problem with muslim people we live harmony…………….its was maybe made by some fanatic insane sunnny……..muslim malaysia also dont like sunny…..they demolish all the extreme islam here to maintain the harmonical society here….so dont simply drag this article to begin the war of humanity….its a crime scene that happen in every country…dont look for the solution by war,find its roots and causes…remember your child,mother your family……revenge will bring more revenge….peace….

    • George

        Hey DUDE91 if you can send me info on this with you having been there  I would appreciate it, because I am truly trying to be objective here. If it turns out that someone is playing a sick joke , then I find such a person to be a sicko himself/herself.   I will NOT support wrong or propaganda on either side . Please submit more info or links for me to study and I appreciate it . Thanks ————–   George 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001706163306 Mark Ric

    Now that you know this is not the correct story, you should really remove that picture. It’s sensationalist, not to mention factually incorrect.  Absolutely make posts regarding Islam and whatever, but this is no better than their religion. We need to spread truth, This story, is a lie. No better than them.

    • George

      I don’t see you providing any evidence whatsoever that it is  untrue .   Are you an investigative reporter who went there to interview people at that  location to determine otherwise ?   Who are you to say what is or  isn’t  true.  If Jillian Becker provided a hundred documented proofs and posted on here  , you and your ilk would still be calling it fake or untrue.  Holy crap !   The trolls are out in full force now. Must be something in the water.

    • Jillian Becker

      I do not know that it is not the correct story. I have only acknowledged that some other people think it is not the correct story. 

      If you really think posting a picture that rouses doubt as to its origin is “no better then them” – meaning, I suppose, mass murderers – you need to re-assess  your values. Your saying such a thing makes me think you are muddle-headed enough to be religious. See our post “Acts of religion in Nigeria revisited”, and you may be able to understand why I’ll certainly not remove the picture.

      • VeryConcerned

        Is this a joke? The picture is of victims of an oil tanker of fire! I feel as though you know this but you don’t want to admit that you are wrong! If you are still in doubt, please search “Hundreds Killed in Congo after oil tanker truck explodes” on CNN and look carefully at the background! I am a believer unlike Mark but I think the fact that one of your own is saying you should remove it means something. Also search “les images atroces” on google for the original posting with series of photos (including this one here) on the afrik website.

        This type of thing DOES lead to violence. If that violence occurs, it is on YOUR hands!

  • mae

    @george: u said wake up and fight…and then?? create another picture like this?..

    • George

      Mae, no other picture needs to be created .  People need to simply face reality .   It doesn’t take rocket science to figure that out.

  • Guest

    Stop spreading a LIE.

    This photo is from a Tanker accident in the Democratic People’s Republic of Congo last July. It has absolutely nothing to do with Muslims, Christians, or Nigeria.

    Using this photo as you are is HATE SPEECH and INCITING PEOPLE TO VIOLENCE.

    Here is the REAL News story: http://www.reuters.com/article/video/idUSTRE6620H220100703?videoId=112421122

    STOP HATE MONGERING!

  • Goth
    • Jillian Becker

      Relevance, Goth?

      • George

        Thanks for pointing that out Jillian !

      • VeryConcerned

        The relevance is that this photo is from the explosion in Congo. Meaning it is NOT a photo of the aftermath of some massacre in Nigeria. You have many people following you Jillian, you need to BACK DOWN and let them know you were wrong!

        • George

          Hey  VeryConcerned , I am truly trying to get to the bottom of this fiasco and to determine the authenticity of the photos and situations .  I  am going to reserve further comment and continue to research both sides and then I’ll get back –and I’ll be honst in doing so.

  • George

    If you think this is something –click on   “Muhammad’s command”.

  • George

    Even if it was the result of a tanker truck  explosion –check this out.   This was the result of Muslims rioting and it resulted in the death of Christians . If there was indeed a riot , it is evident that the people who rioted  set things ablaze , so if someone detonated a fuel  tanker truck during a riot and it exploded causing the death and burned bodies ,  the perpetrators are the ones who caused the tanker to explode in the first place —–  Duhhhhhhhhhh !!!!!!!   Hellllloooooo  !!!!!!!!!  The truck wasn’t just sitting idle and out of nowhere exploded without a catalyst or form of ignition.   People need to use some common freakin’ sense for a change !!!!!!!

    • Akageorge

      George, according to the news reports from the time of the actual incident (over a year ago), the tanker was speeding through the village and crashed. Many of the victims were burned to death in their homes or local cinema as they watched the World Cup soccer match. So are you saying only Christians watch soccer? And what is your source for “Muslims rioting” in this case? Some people’s “common sense” (aka gut reaction) should be replaced by research into facts.

      • George

        You obviously DIDN’T pay attention to my last post while you’re spewing out your personal ad hominem attack venom.   I clearly said after reading both presentations that I was going to do further research on both arguments and then objectively find out what actually  happened. At least I’m being honest here and not trying to promote some personal agenda like yourself. I went further to state that upon my continued digging for what took place if  I should discover that someone posted the original photo on the internet as a fake personal ploy , then I wouild indeed acknowledge such. But then again , instead  of you PAYING  ATTENTION ,  you engage in your personal smear campaigns and accept ONLY what YOU want to.  It doesn’t get any plainer than that.   You’re more concerned about “mud-slinging” than getting to the facts.

  • George

    I checked out the link  by famveiga but it’s in a foreign language . My other question is how do we know if the link itself is accurate and not a ploy to to divert what really happened. I do NOT know either way but considering what goes on there , I would not be surprised. People will accept  what they want to accept and reject what they want to reject.  Since I wasn’t there I have to honestly say I DON’T KNOW for certain , but to automatically claim the former posted image on The Atheist Conservative is bogus is a stretch. If  it turns out that it was a tank explosion ( and I still do not know ) then I admonish anyone for doing such. The only way we could actually know would be for some independent unbiased investigative reporter to invesigate the authenticity of the photo and that in itself leads to another problem —– where do you find a truly OBJECTIVE  investigative reporter ? 

  • Baldev Haeussler

    ..but it will sure happen
    again there..as in this black continent religion is a diet and their
    immun system is very weak due to a long civil war and shameless
    plundering by western.Now they are being feeded by Papst and Molvi,s..

  • Baldev Haeussler

    people should learn to live
    togather rather than a pray in different way…this can be realized
    through a healthy democracy,but to create a healthy democracy people
    must be “Healthy”….

    • George

      People will NEVER be able to live together as long as we have people trying to FORCE or impose their dogmatic indoctrinated beliefs on everyone else. I believe in live and let live  but the radical proselytizers who go on a daily crusade to push THEIR beliefs upon everyone else adamantly refuse to leave other people alone and that is the problem.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Melissa-Garcia/100000587307329 Melissa Garcia

    During the one thousand years that intervene between the two resurrections, what will the saints do?”And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.” Revelation 20:4.

    • George

      Oh great , another Christian troll posting on a secular website quoting a bunch of biblical rubbish.  I guess repeating a bunch of words from some ancient book of two thousand years ago is going to make things right.  Nearly all religions believe that their belief is the true belief and the other person’s beliefs are false .  All are based upon indoctrination , ignorance and fear.  All are based upon blind acceptance ( aka- faith ). Quoting verses from some ancient book written by men during an era of worldwide mass superstition proves nothing and accomplishes  nothing.   The gullible masses will never learn.  Here we are in the era of modern society and people are still embracing ancient superstition, mythology , folklore and Fairy Tale nonsense.  Amazing !

      • Bob

        Sorry George but it’s hateful people just like you who cause things like the above photo to happen.  If you and others only try to care about someone besides yourselves and your own personal views, their would be less hatred in the world and events like the photo above would be a thing of the past.

        • George

          First of all bob , there is no hate coming from me whatsoever.   I am speaking out against terrorism and the specific individuals who carry out such acts.  Because you are such a hateful bigot yourself , you’re using  the tactic of playing your mind games to try to divert attention from the real issues. Not one of hate has come from me . Furthermore I never implicated that all Muslims are acting like this but I addressed this specific behavior and what fuels it. I didn’t see you denouncing this murderous behavior. Also , many times when I turn my radio on to a conservative talk  radio show , I hear the typical secular  freethinker bashing non-stop and yet you and your ilk are always silent in this regard which proves what a hypocrite you are and liar you are. 
                        Why don’t you try to care about others yourself  instead of preaching your hypocritical drivel to everyone else.  While you’re making your ad hominem attack upon me without even knowing me or my position , this proves your prejudice and hate that precedes you. This wasn’t addressed to people in general but specifically to the individuals and the mindset that drives them to it. I’m speaking out against this  hatred and apparently you are supporting it.
                               We wouldn’t have this sort of thing happening if people respected other people’s rights and stop proselytizing one’s beliefs upon other people and then killing people who do not subscribe to a particular dogma. I’m the one speaking out against this and you are the one being intentional deceitful with your misplaced blame agenda.
                           If I didn’t care about people I wouldn’t be speaking out against such savagery. If I didn’t care about people I wouldn’t be denouncing  terrorism, or denouncing violence, or denouncing the subjugation of other people against their will.  Who do you think you’re fooling ?
                            I want to see all people free to decide for themselves of what they believe as long as they leave other people alone and not force their dogma upon others .  The hate-monger is yourself but you’re too ignorant and closed-minded to realize it.
                           I believe in the Golden Rule and I practice it , so why don’t you try it on for size   !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • Jillian Becker

          Bob - 

          Why do you call George hateful? Anyone who reads his comments can tell that he’s one of the best and bravest of men, warm to his friends, always willing to talk with his adversaries, but firm in his PRINCIPLES (what you call “personal views”). He hates people who do atrocious things to other people, and so everyone should. The Christian idea “hate the sin but love the sinner” is absurd. It completely exonerates the perpetrator – as if the “sin” had descended on him and he had no responsibility whatever for what he did. To love someone who has done something bad is to reward him. It is profoundly unjust, sickeningly sentimental, and blatantly hypocritical. 

          What happened in the picture was a religious act. Religion has caused more suffering than any other single cause in history. And all over sheer superstition. It’s a good thing that mankind is growing out of it, though much too slowly.  

           

          • YoursTruly

            Guys, I got to this site having received the image in question in an inflamatory email and did a reverse image search on it to see if it was a hoax. I can assure you I have no agenda… But having read through the posts I realized that the origin of the image is almost irrelevant, it is the reaction of the people, who posted here, that matters. And reactions were plenty, and I do not think anyone convinced anyone of anything. Lots of adjectives were thrown around and lot of people were called names. George, while I agree with a lot of things he said, became just as emotional and started bashing anyone with a different view as the people who provided no source for their allegations. If one asks another to be “objective” then be objective oneself. No need to call people names and getting all bent out of shape. Sure, a seeming conspiracy to hide the truth can piss one off, but that again is not much different from giving into emotional response as a religious fanatic. The problem in my opinion is letting these crazy emotions fly and personally insulting each other, Christian, Muslim, Atheist, or otherwise. Peace out!

    • Jillian Becker

      And what happened after the thousand years,  Melissa Garcia? 

  • Famveiga

    This is an evil manipulation of the truth. The images correspond to an accident inCongo, where a burning tanker truck caught fire 235 people. Nothing to do with Christians and Muslims. Who prepares these falsehoods? Look the truth here: http://www.afrik.com/article20308.html

    • George

      Whether it is or isn’t I wasn’t there and can’t say either way, but the truth is that Muslims are going around worldwide engaging in global jihad and people around the world had better wake up.   I will not go out on a limb and authenticate anything regarding this specifi photo because  I don’t know either way ( being totally honest ) , however the fact still remains that people around the world had better come together and stand up and fight back the encroaching sharia. If by chance it turns out it is false then I personally denounce such behavior , yet we as a civilized world society still had better stand up and fight back for our very survival. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Wayne-Irdgaf-Gomes/100001398352425 Wayne Irdgaf Gomes

    could i get a news link for this?? all i am seeing is this one picture, no documentation for it

    • Jillian Becker

      Wayne Irdgaf Gomes - 

      Try this: 

      http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/2010/03/08/muslims-slaughter-thousands-of-christians-in-nigeria/

      The post at that address is not about this horrifying event in particular, which was only one of many massacres, but it gives general information about what was happening in Nigeria – and continues to happen there. 

      Also try googling Boko Haram. 

    • Guest

      This photo is from a Tanker
      accident in the Democratic People’s Republic of Congo last July. It has
      absolutely nothing to do with Muslims, Christians, or Nigeria.

      Here is the REAL News story: http://www.reuters.com/article

      • Jillian Becker

        Different stories. 

        Go here

        http://www.citizens4freedom.com/Articles/tabid/1387/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/4618/Warning-Graphic-Photos–NIGERIA-Christian-pastor-and-wife-burned-to-death-by-Muslims.aspx

        for a report and pictures of a pastor and his wife burnt to death by Muslims  in Nigeria just four days ago. 

        • Marcelgrant76

          Lets not compare a world news organization like Reuters to a Christian website with an agenda. The Pastor and wife happened, but that is different from saying that there are villages collaborating on massacres.

      • Marcelgrant76

        Good job on catching the propaganda. But I’m afraid that it can happen and even more concearned that people will believe it.

        • George

          I will be the first to concede that there is propaganda on both sides.   I went to a an African immigrant friend of mine and he confirmed that it was a terrorist act.    Now having said that –one of several things could have happened  :      It could have been an accident and someone falsely posted it as a propanda ploy.  This leads to another question. What is the source ?    Where did it originate ?  And why ?
                            My sources confirmed that what happened is as posted . That leads to another question as well— What sources of information do we trust ?   Then it leads to even another question.  Has anyone gone to the original presenting sources and publicly inquired as to the authenticity and originality ?      To be fair and honest , I will NOT rule out that even sources of information that I have read have turned out to be false .  Even though the sources I have contacted said that it happened as illustrated , I too will do further research and attempt to ascertain  confirmation or even debunking of any false internet projections ( to be totally honest , fair , and objective ) . I will then report back after even more extensive and more thourough  contacs with individuals who have knowledge with what’s going on over there firsthand for the sake of honesty, fairness and objectivity.

      • Jaar

        Sorry on reuter’s page there in no photo like above . Is it correct link?

        • Jillian Becker

          Jaar – please read the text under the picture.

  • Arjie van Lith

    WTF you Muslims!

    WTF is your Allah!

    Is that how your Fuckin’ Allah told ya!

    We Christians have been so good to everyone!

    Why are you forcing us to convert!

    You guys will go to Hell since no Allah exists in the Universe!

    R.I.P. to my fellow Christians who were burnt by idiot Muslims!

    • George

      You’re right about the Muslims but YOU Christians have NOT been good to everyone in any sense .  You say no allah exists in the Universe . Well by the same token no invisble  , formless, supernatural being that you call GOD exists in the Universe either.  What BS.  Just because you have been indoctrinated with this belief since childhood proves nothing.  The old testament of the bible is just as vicious and christians have committed horrors too numerous to list. christians foced people to convert and are still doing so with their fundamentalist proselytizing.  Sure the muslims are worse , but christians are in a close second  , that’s for sure. Don’t get me started. Are you sure you are aware what website you’re on. I wonder ! 

      • Gnmschooley

        You can’t judge any religion or faith by it’s abuses.  What radicals will do in the name of God is horrible. You can’t judge the whole by the actions of the few.  Just like I can’t judge all atheists by what stalin did or pol pot or hitler. all atheists.  We all put our faith in something. I chose the bible. No one was there at creation.  was it God or was it a big bang.  no one knows, these are educated guesses.  You put your faith in a scientific theory.  There are problems with the theory of evolution.  this was a tragic event, but for me as a christian to say we need kill those evil muslims to make this world a safer place, i would be going against what jesus said ” love your enemies and pray for those who presecute you and despitfuly use you.” love is and will change the world one person at a time.

        • George

          For your ignorant information Pol Pot ( whose real name was saloth Sar ) was NOT an atheists but was a Buddhist who later joined the priesthood and became a Buddhist priest. he embraced agrarian Marxist socialism and was falsely labeled an atheists.   Joseph Stalin was only considred secular during the middle years of his life and even then he claimed to be starting his own religion with himself as it’s prophet. During his youth he attended a seminary for a few years studying to be a priest. It was in his later years preceding his death that he re-converted back to religion and was considrerd indeed to be the most ruthless. Stalin during the majority of his life  was a follower of and embraced the Russion Orthodox Church.
          Adolph Hitler stated in many of his speeches and writings that he was a Catholic and would forever remain so. In his book  Mein Kamph ,   Hitler wrote extensively of how he was doing the work of the Lord and said he was working in behalf of The Almighty Creator. He was no atheist .   Hitler’s henchmen wore the inscription in German ” Gott-mitt Uns ” meaning   ” God With Us”   on their belt buckles. Hitler also appointed chaplains on the battlefields and he wa also  supported by the Pope of the time.  Mao Zedong ( aka- mao tse-tung ) was a Buddhist and at times he would vary between Shintoism and Taoism. He also embraced marxism which led to his communism.   Yoy sat there are problems with evolution . Evolution is backed by scientific evidence , not blind indoctrination like creationism. Scientists have calculated our universe at 65 billion years old and not 6,000 years like the teachings of the fundamentalist bible theory proselytizers.
                                Furthermore I NEVER said kill Muslims , I said we must stand up to the jihadists (terrorists ) and fight the terrorists by any means necessary ( up to an including military force whatever that may be ) so don’t put words in my mouth. People like you love to revise history and twist facts to suit your purposes and to promote your theological dogma. Teaching people to love their enemies is pure stupidity. You fight your enemies for your very survival . You don’t love people who are trying to kill or anihillate you . To teach someone to turn the other cheek when punched in the face is to teach a person to be a coward and defenseless. Who do you think you’re fooling with this nonsense. Science teaches us that matter cannot be created or destroyed and more and more scientists are agreeing that matter not only always existed but has been perpetually changing and evolving and always will . There was no creation of matter ( of which life evolved from ) and there will never be a time of non-matter .  The only reason you believe your bible dogma is because that is what you were indoctrinated to accept  ( nothing more and nothing less ).

        • Jillian Becker

          Gumschooley -

          No such acts have been committed in the name of atheism. Stalin started his adult life as an orthodox  seminary student. Later he committed his crimes in the name of Communism, as did Pol Pot. Hitler called himself a Catholic to the end of his days. Are you not aware that most of the wars in history have been fought over religion? Wars are not fought by a few. And very many of them have been fought between Christian sects, the religion that preaches peace and tells people to love everybody – a thoroughly unrealistic command which can only cause frustration, hypocrisy, bitterness and despair in anyone who tries to obey it.

      • Andrew M

        I just finished reading some truly awful prose the other day. The central character created a bunch of three-dimensional neuron-wired puppets spinning around on some incomprehensibly large balls floating about in an even incomprehensibly larger void, but this character was also a jealous sack of feces who asserted painful authority on his puppets in arbitrary and childish ways.

        The only two puppets he originally created dare to eat from a certain tree? First of all, how dare you know you know you’re naked because this is absolutely shame, and secondly, fuck you and get out of my garden so that you may work and deliver children under excruciating pain so that they may deliver children under excruciating pain. The puppets get together to build a tower as testament to their shared humanity? Fuck you, I’m going to tear it down and confuse your tongues so that you can never be as cooperative ever again. Someone just got married and had children? Screw you too, I’m gonna call you wicked and smite you because you’re wicked. Your surviving brother marries your widow? FUCK HIM TOO FOR HE IS BREAKING THE HOLY SANCTITTIES OF MARRIAGE!

        Hey wait a minute, someone’s trying to kill their son? Bless him and his children! They deserve an everlasting Covenant with me so I can exact cruel and unusual punishments upon all who dare oppose them.

        Of course, the character is God, and the prose I am talking about? Genesis.

        • George

          I agree Andrew. And don’t you just love these chritian proselytizers who come upon an atheist website and start proselytizing and pushing their theological dogma upon us. The are never happy unless they are trying to convert everyone to their beliefs or impose their dogma upon everyone else. Then when people stand up to them and refuse their imposition or dogmatic proselytizing ,then they have the audacity to call those of us who want to be free to our own beliefs [intolerant] while they are the most intolerant individuls  on earth. They have NO tolerance for people who believe differently from their dogmatic indoctrinated theological beliefs . It’s either their way or the highway. Hypocrites galore  !

        • https://me.yahoo.com/a/vekAsew7lOvzPtoZhB61ECRhcAE-#43299 Liz

          I’m a little late chiming in here, but I love this take on the “truly awful prose”!  Seen in an honest light, the whole thing exposes its own absurdity!

    • Jillian Becker

      Good that you are angry, Arjie van Lith. 

      But put these two titles in our search slot to remind yourself what Christians have done to non-Christians and to their fellow Christians: 

      Torturing for Christ 

      (which is about cruel persecution over hundreds of years by the Catholic Church) 

      Calvin: a chapter in the terrible history of Christianity

      (which is about cruelty inflicted by the Protestant leader Calvin himself) 

  • George

    I wanted people to see the photo of the dead African Christians in Nigeria burnt alive by Sunni Muslims in this article.  I was unable to access the photo today for some reason . Perhaps the photo was removed or my PC was unable to access. Perhaps Jillian can comment if that’s the case.       We are seeing more and more the true face of Islam.

    • Guest

      liar, hatemonger

    • Guest

      Stop spreading a LIE.

      This photo is from a Tanker
      accident in the Democratic People’s Republic of Congo last July. It has
      absolutely nothing to do with Muslims, Christians, or Nigeria.

      Using this photo as you are is HATE SPEECH and INCITING PEOPLE TO VIOLENCE.

      Here is the REAL News story: http://www.reuters.com/article

      STOP HATE MONGERING!

  • George

    This photo alone should be a wake up call to why we must fight back. If the sight of this doesn’t wake people up then nothing will. You would think that after Sept. 11, 2001 people would have waken up to reality to what these barbarians are about. You would think that after the Ft. Hood shooting that people would wake up. You would think that after the Pan Am 747 downing over Lockerbee , people would wake up . I could go on and on and on endlessly . I shudder to think of this happening in America. Do people have to be hit in the head with a sledge hammer to get their attention to the reality of what’s going on in the world ? Yet people are still so complacent and living in a fantasy world of denial. Take a close look and imagine if these charred bodies in the photo were members of your family or even you and me . Are people in the world so mentally blind as to not be able to see the face of religious fanatic horror ? People WAKE UP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Guest

      The wake up call should be for people to start THINKING CRITICALLY, instead of reacting emotionally and stupidly. This post is a LIE.

      This photo is from a Tanker
      accident in the Democratic People’s Republic of Congo last July. It has
      absolutely nothing to do with Muslims, Christians, or Nigeria.

      Using this photo as you are is HATE SPEECH and INCITING PEOPLE TO VIOLENCE.

      Here is the REAL News story: http://www.reuters.com/article

      STOP HATE MONGERING!

      • Jillian Becker

        Different stories. Go herehttp://www.citizens4freedom.co…for a report and pictures of a pastor and his wife burnt to death by Muslims  in Nigeria just four days ago.

      • George

        If you had taken the time to re-check your sources you pathetic liar , you will see that the story you are referring to is altogether different from the story posted.  The only person hate-mongering is yourself.  Go take your stinking trolling somewhere else.   You are the hate monger because YOU are being an apologist for such a savage and barbaric act and you indeed know who is at fault.  The fact that YOU are making excuses for this barbarity tells the whole story .     The story as confirmed by Jillian is indeed accurate .
                        Furthermore you dare falsely accuse us  of hate mongering. Where was your stinking loud mouth regarding all the “honor killings” , the terrorist  attacks , and other acts of violence by these jihadists.   For you to divert attention and claim those of us who are exposing this for what it really is makes you the true hate-monger.

        YOU ARE THE  HATE-MONGER   and you are indeed a TROLL   !!!!!! 

  • Jillian Becker

    Thanks for the correction about where this was done.

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