A-ha? 17

Pope Benedict XVI has discovered that the Jews were not responsible for the killing of Jesus.

From IBD:

In an upcoming book to be published this month, “Jesus of Nazareth,” the pope definitively ends any question of official Catholic church anti-Semitism, exonerating now and forever Jews for the crucifixion of Jesus Christ.

Well, better late than never. Two thousand years of blaming the Jews for something they didn’t do, and now it’s “Oops, sorry – we got it wrong. No hard feelings. Come on, Jews – shake hands and let bygones be bygones, okay?”

What needs to come next is the realization by this uniquely open-minded Pope that the Jewish teacher the Greeks called “Jesus”, who reputedly lived in the Roman province of Judea between the times of the Emperors Augustus and Tiberius, was not God.

Then the Church can be dissolved and Christianity can be looked back on as an historical curiosity.

Of course it’s a pity about all the Jews and heretics and pagans who were done to death in agonizing ways by Christians in the name of the gospel truth that turns out to be not so true, but that’s all in the past now and we’ve gotta move on.

  • Ralph

    I thought Pope Paul VI absolved the Jews of the crime of killing JC.

    • Jillian Becker

      Ralph – this is what Pope Paul VI had to say about it:
      Extract from:
      DECLARATION ON THE RELATION OF THE CHURCH TO NON-CHRISTIAN RELIGIONS
      NOSTRA AETATE
      PROCLAIMED BY HIS HOLINESS POPE PAUL VI
      ON OCTOBER 28, 1965

      … True, the Jewish authorities and those who followed their lead pressed for the death of Christ; still, what happened in His passion cannot be charged against all the Jews, without distinction, then alive, nor against the Jews of today. Although the Church is the new people of God, the Jews should not be presented as rejected or accursed by God, as if this followed from the Holy Scriptures. All should see to it, then, that in catechetical work or in the preaching of the word of God they do not teach anything that does not conform to the truth of the Gospel and the spirit of Christ. Furthermore, in her rejection of every persecution against any man, the Church, mindful of the patrimony she shares with the Jews and moved not by political reasons but by the Gospel’s spiritual love, decries hatred, persecutions, displays of anti-Semitism, directed against Jews at any time and by anyone.

      • Ralph

        Thank you. I should have researched this before I made my comment. In the future I will try to think before I comment.

      • Fan of Heather Mac Donald

        So I still don’t get it. Was the death (well, it was temporary, so does it really count as death? but anyway…) of Jesus a bad thing, for which blame could be assigned, or was it a good thing, cleansing the rest of us of our original sin and allowing us to be saved?

      • Macnvettes

        It is surprising and sad to see that the Catholic church, the oldest and most storied of the Christian churches is actually one of the most forward-thinking. The Popes have admitted that evolution is a fact, that Jews are not to blame for the killing of Christ, the current Pope is changing his stance on condoms, there is a pro-choice Catholic group, etc. It seems that as time goes on, and as church numbers decline, those left are more ardent and fervent, evangelicals being the most backward-thinking of the major groups (I would say the Amish, but they stick to themselves and are few in numbers). I find a lot of hypocrisy when they start talking about “absolute morality”, and then start changing their morals as the times change. It illustrates the point that all religious texts were written for the time in which they were written for the men of the time. As times change, the meanings of the stories are re-interpreted and the morals change.

  • George

    I heard a right wing conservative talk show host yesterday ranting about –” anti-Christian bigotry” while HE himself bashes atheists perpetually and loves to engage in anti-secular bigotry. The double-standard and hypocrisy never ceases. I’m tired of being tolerant of the intolerant. These are the people who actually believe that they are so enlightened and open-minded and yet in reality they are the most closed-minded , arrogant, ignorant , bigoted, hate-mongering , conceited, narcissistic , warped-minded individuals on earth. It’s either THEIR way or the HIGHWAY. They have absolutely NO qualms about bashing those who think different than themselves but they go “ballistic” when anyone makes criticism of their indoctrinated beliefs. What a bunch of hypocrites !!! You can’t reason with such individuals. It’s like “beating a dead horse” or “pulling teeth” or talking to a brick wall. Your efforts will be in vain. They are totally convinced in their own mind that they are right and you (or we ) are wrong and NOTHING you say , no matter how logical , reasonable , and rational you make your presentation , it will be all to no avail. They willfully and psychologically “block out” any challenge to their indoctrination with their elitist mindset . If more and more freethinkers would stop being so spineless and come “out of the closet” and speak up and stand up they will see that we are NOT just a tiny minority of the population or a miniscule fringe group but a large segment of the population who simply DO NOT believe in the supernatural , paranormal , or things we regard as superstition, mythology, fantasy and make believe. We are living in a world society of the WALKING LIVING MENTALLY DEAD !!!

    • Xytan4

      My parents are the bat shit crazy far right variety, too. Especially my dad, he says the Internet was invented by Satan to corrupt our minds. I’m really surprised they didn’t disown me when I announced my conversion to atheism. lol

      • George

        I know how you feel. My mom who is in an elderly citizen home is the same way. She’s a flaming Bible-thumper and suffers with every ailment known to human kind yet she still goes around saying—” Praise the lord !! ” . Praise the LARD is more like it ! Praise for what ? Praise for letting you suffer more and more each day ? Praise for subjecting you to every ailment known ? Praise for not answering all the multitude of prayers that you pray daily ? Praise for what darnit ? When people put their life in the hands of some make-believe mystical being and expect such to make their lives better , then I have absolutely NO sympathy for them . If they’re that STUPID then they get what they deserve. This may sound cold-hearted but it’s the truth. I love my mom but she has given her life over to some make-believe fantasy and then she expects to be cured or to have an improvement of health. When people ignore reality , then they suffer the consequences of their own ignorance. If they can’t reason and look beyond their indoctrination then they are contributing to their own fate .

        • Xytan4

          If America were more like the Galactic Empire from Star Wars, this little conflict would’ve been long over. Just look at Alderaan to see how the Galactic Empire deals with insurgents…

  • Macnvettes

    The end of Christianity would be a great achievement that would free the minds of millions of people, but Islam is a much larger threat to freedom worldwide. The previous Pope (JP2) already admitted that evolution is a scientific fact, yet there are still throngs of brainwashed idiots who disagree.
    http://biblelight.net/darwin.htm

    • George

      I totally agree !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Macnvettes

        Unfortunately, I believe that there is some need in weak-minded people to believe in something higher than themselves, so if Christianity ends before Islam, I think that Islam will see a huge surge in membership. But, history has shown that all things (including religions) come to an end.

        • Religions come to an end, but religion does not. It’s universal in human history. People are wired for it somehow, or most people anyway. I think we’re stuck with trying to carve a small space for the few of us who didn’t inherit the God gene in which to live safe and free. That implies making allies of those among the faithful who don’t want to burn us at the stake or throw stones at us.

          Maybe I’m wrong about how many actually are hard-wired for faith. True, it’s hard to tell, because of the social consequences from coming out of that closet. On the other hand, just look at how many of my generation left Christianity only to come to rest in New Age nonsense.

        • Macnvettes

          I think psychology plays a big part in why people cling to religion so fiercely. We are told lies in our childhood by our parents, Santa Claus, the Easter bunny, Tooth Fairy, etc. One by one, these lies are revealed as frauds. Religion is the biggest lie by far, and the one that is easiest to perpetuate because all of the other lies give you presents during your life, the present of religion happens only after you die. People cling to it because it is the last bit of faith that they have in what their parents brought them up with.

        • [In reply to Macnvettes beginning, “I think psychology…”]

          Well, yes. You’re right. If it were entirely genetic, the group of nonbelievers would be static as a portion of the population, and clearly that’s not what’s happening. Still, I think humans generally have a strong propensity toward religious belief of some kind. In the end, it’s probably a combination of nature and nurture–nature prepares the field, and nurture determines which seeds are planted.

        • George

          That’s very true Macnvettes , but here’s the scary part in my opinion. I believe Islam will continue to rise and threaten the world and the “‘sleeping giant” America will eventually awaken but not after there has been a massive amount of deaths and bloodshed and human right’ s violations. The people who are “mentally asleep” will eventually be forced to fight back after things get to the boiling point and “burst the pressure cooker” when they finally say enough is enough , but I only hope it won’t be too late before we can retalliate against these barbarians from the Middle East. I learned in the military that you can’t negotiate with terrorists. I was taught in the military that you have to kill them or they will kill you —-END OF STORY !! You would think that after Sept. 11th that people in the USA would have waken up to see what is really going on here but people are so gullible , brainwashed , stupid and foolish. It’s mind boggling. We are in big doo doo unless we fight back. If we don’t stand up and fight back , we are finished and these murderous barbarians know it. The liberals are the biggest cowards on earth and many conservatives have caved in to them just to get along and be accepted and not be called names or be “demonized” ( pardon the expression). I saw a bumper sticker that read – ” Nuke their a** and take the damn gas” and another bumper sticker that read- ” I’ll fly 10,000 miles to smoke a camel” with the symbol of a rife scope cross hairs zeroed in on a camel with a terrroist riding on top. I even saw a bumper sticker that read- ” Nuke em all and let their Allah sort em out ” . I laughed my a** off and almost wrecked my car laughing. I DO NOT advocate the harming or killing of innocent people anywhere but in war , we need to be less concerned about collatteral damage or casualties of war and concentrate on WINNING and making the world a safe place to thrive. Self preservation is the first law of nature. Every military person I speak to on this issue here in the USA agrees with me ( but they can’t really speak their mind because of their punk a** so-called Commander In Chief ) . The reason why the Muslim terrorists have become so brazen today is because they smell weakness and are taking advantage of the weak leadership in America with the sissyfication of our government and society. These limp-wristed PC punks in politics make me sick to my stomach. Don’t get me started !! It’s time to get on the soap box and shout out to the world and stand up for America and real world salvation. Semper Fi !!!!!!

        • George

          The sad cold hard truth is that if Christianity ends before Islam , we as a world society will be cast back into the 7th century with a world wide barbaric culture prevailing around the world. Our great society of free-enterprise, capitalism , high standard of living , technological innovation will all come to a screeching halt . Our children , grand-children and generations thereafter will suffer even though we will be dead and gone. They will unfortunately pay the price of such a takeover. These barbarians cannot think with logic, reason, rational thinking, etc. but only embrace their hard-core theological indoctrination. Society will NOT progress but rather will regress. People would be stoned to death or beheaded for trivial violations or even false assumptions or accusations. Women will be slaves and the entire earth as we know it will be back into the primitive societies of the past. If we as civilized people just sit around and shrug our shoulders and say ” Oh well !” then we are just as guilty for allowing it to happen. We can’t afford to be complacent and silent and innactive. Our children and our children’s children depend on us to stand up and fight back. This world scenario is real and getting worse every day. We need to do more than just talk to one another within our own group ( preaching to the choir) so to speak but write letters to the editor, write your political leaders, and make your voices heard publicly. Our future and world existence depends on it.