Terrorism – always an individual decision and a crime 3

“The truth is that blood gives gravity even to very stupid thoughts,” our reader Joszaruba writes, commenting on our post Nemesis comes to Europe in which we discuss the atrocious terrorist acts carried out by Anders Breivik in Norway last Friday.

It is an astute observation. But the trouble is, we have to take into account that much of Breivik’s thinking is not stupid to judge by his book, A European Declaration of Independence. (See our post immediately below, A terrorist’s manifesto.)  We agree with his political assessments of the threat of Muslim immigration to European law and civilization. We do not agree with many of his other views, eg against “global capitalism”, for Christianity and the ethos of the Knights Templar. We agree that civil war is likely, but vehemently disagree that it should be preempted (anticipated or even precipitated) by acts of murderous violence.

There is a danger that the blood spilled by Breivik will give the leftist western governments the excuse to put another thought crime on the books: political conservatism with its tributary views against multiculturalism, and for free markets, individual freedom, and even Israel.

Throughout the rightist blogosphere there have been cries of “he is no Christian” – reminiscent of “he is no Muslim” with respect to bin Laden. Can conservative atheists say “he is no conservative?” No. We are put to the hard task of distinguishing between ideologies that do promote war, command fanaticism, desire totalitarianism and those that do not. Or we must look to psychological explanations for individual behavior and why extreme violence – terrorism – is chosen by some as a means of political self-expression. Perhaps this will result in our having to take the awkward position that fanatical conservatives go mad to murder, but fanatical Muslims are acting rationally according to the dictates of Islamic dogma.

If bad ideas are to be vanquished by good ones, how far can the law be used to support the good and inhibit the bad? If Islam is the cause of the violent backlash, should we be demanding laws that proscribe Islam? Is there a way of proscribing the practices of Islam that do not impinge on “religious freedom”: allowing Muslims to pray together, but not to cover females, or engage in polygamy, or carry out the custom of female circumcision and wife-beating, etc.?  That would be tantamount to legislating a reformed Islam – by enforcing the law against practices that would be crimes if not excused by “religion”. Would that be politically more feasible than deporting Muslim immigrants (which may not be possible  as their home countries might not accept them). Certainly Muslim immigration could be stopped, but that would necessitate a national acknowledgement – in fact a positive embracing –  of what is dubbed “racism”, actually nationalism.

If the law is always to allow freedom of expression (of which religion is a sub-category), then we must be very sure of our norms in terms of criminalizing acts, not thoughts. Whether motivated by Islam or anti-Marxism or anything else, mass murder is an individual decision and a crime – not a hate crime, nor a political crime.

When most Western states decided against the death penalty, it placed pre-meditated murder on an equal footing with lesser crime – such as “homicide” as defined in America – and undermined its defenses against fanatical political enemies. It legitimated political “war”. Killing in war is homicide. Insofar as Breivik’s mass murder was an act of war, it was invited by the degeneration of legal norms. Disallowing the death penalty was one step among many taken in the name of “social justice” and “human rights” that contributed to that degeneration.

C. Gee   July 25, 2011

  • Telson7

    Quran Sura 5:
    20 both the Jews and the Christians say: “we are the sons of Allah, and his beloved.” say: “why then doth he punish you for your sins? nay, ye are but men,– of the men he hath created: he forgiveth whom he pleaseth. and he punisheth whom he pleaseth: and to Allah belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between: and unto him is the final goal of all.”
    21 O people of the book! now hath come unto you, making things clear unto you, our apostle, after the break in the series of our apostles, lest ye should say: “there came unto us no bringer of glad tidings and no warner from evil”: but now hath come unto you a bringer of glad tidings and a warner from evil. and Allah hath power over all things.
    22 remember Moses said to his people: “O my people! call in remembrance the favor of Allah unto you, when he produced prophets among you, made you kings, and gave you what he had not given to any other among the peoples.”
    23 “O my people! enter the holy land which Allah hath assigned unto you, and turn not back ignominiously, for then will ye be overthrown, to your own ruin.”

    Muslims try to destroy Israel, and demand areas of Israel’s land for themselves. Muslims say that some areas of Israel belong to the Palestinians. The Quran declares that Allah has given the land of Israel for Jews, which is their holy land.

    The Muslims fight against the announcement of the Quran when try to destroy Israel and take over the land of Israel. The Palestinian issue and the Middle East problems would be solved if the Muslims would believe the Quran and to allow the Israelis to live in their own land, which belongs to them. Of course, it would be best if they would believe in the Lord Jesus and the Bible, because, then they really know to whom the land of Israel belongs to. The rich Arab countries could re-colonize the Palestinian Arabs, and to give them a good home and a livelihood, because they can afford to it by many billions of oil incomes. The Arabs don’t want to do this, but they want to keep Palestinian Arabs in misery as well as a shield and an excuse against Israel.

    The land of Israel is the target of ongoing Arab terrorism. Some of the attacks carried out through Palestine. That’s why Israel has to keep tight control for Palestinian Arabs. The problem would be eliminated if the Arabs would believe the Quran, which says that Allah granted the land of Israel to the Jews. Resettlement of the Palestinian Arabs back to the various Arab countries would be the solution, where they are originally from. This would be very easy to organize for Arab multi-millionaires.

    Whole article: http://koti.phnet.fi/petripaavola/differencesquranbible5.html

    • George

                    Telson7,  one part of your post I have to disagree with.   You wrote– ” The problem would be eliminated if the Arabs would believe the Quran , which says  Allah granted the land of Israel to the  Jews “.     Actually , the problem would NOT be eliminated.   The Muslims would hate the Jews , Christians , atheists and everyone else in spite of believing the Quran. Their  believing the Quran is the reason they hate. Even if the land dispute were settled , the Muslims will still hate the Jews .   The Muslims hatred of the Jews is not centered around some real estate dispute or property rights civil matter.    That is PART of the long held dispute , but the venemous hatred of the Jews is not about a     ” Hatfields vs Mccoys   ”  feud.     The attack upon the USA on Sept. 11, 2001 was not over a land dispute with the USA.   The terrorism and murders by Muslims in Australia, Phillipines, Indonesia,  and Sub-Saharan  Africa has absolutely NOTHING to do over real estate arguments.  They will hate anyway.  there is a verse in the Quran that teaches Muslims to not take the Jews, Christians and non-believers for friends .   By embracing these beliefs in the Quran ( or not ) have absolutely nothing to do with some squabble over territory settlement.  That may be ONE reason in another sense but certainly not the basic or main reason they want Israel destroyed.   You are entirely correct when you say that the Muslims want to destroy Israel. Israel is a Jewish state that sits right smack in the Muslim Middle East ( right in their lap ) and they want Israel gone.  Israel is an advanced society comprised of Jews and is right dab in the midst of the Muslim geographical regional EMPIRE .  

  • Joszaruba

    yes, thanks for the post. I agree, and I post an image from the day before the massacre – visit of the Norway foreign minister.  The young socialists ask him to boycott Israel. 

    And it is also true his ideas ar from two parts. I almost tend to think that his  anti-capitalist , templar dark iconography , his uniform with skulls, swords and crosses is just to make neo- nazis happy and use them as his followers. Will they also stop being antisemitic and start to hate someone else or not?? In Germany and Austria, they still love to follow the old ways and just to put a few more fashion symbols on their outfit??