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We continue to suspect that Obama wants to protect Iran from an Israeli attack on its nuclear installations.

But one part of the the report we quoted in our post Obama protects Iran from Israel, that the US called off scheduled joint military exercises with the Israelis, turns out to be untrue. They were called off by Israel itself.

This is from DEBKAfile, the source of the information we used for our earlier post:

Contrary to recent reports published in Washington, Jerusalem – and this site too – it was Israel Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, not the Obama administration, who decided to call off the biggest ever joint US-Israeli military exercise Austere Challenge 12 scheduled for April 2012.

Washington was taken aback by the decision. It was perceived as a mark of Israel’s disapproval for the administration’s apparent hesitancy in going through with the only tough sanctions with any chance of working against Iran’s nuclear weapon program: penalizing its central bank and blocking payments for its petroleum exports.

This was the first time Israel had ever postponed a joint military exercise; it generated a seismic moment in relations between the US and Israel at a time when Iran has never been so close to producing a nuclear weapon.

This week, Netanyahu further orchestrated a series of uncharacteristically critical statements by senior ministers: Deputy Prime Minister Moshe Yaalon called the Obama administration “hesitant” (Jan. 15), after which Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman urged the Americans to “move from words to deeds” (Jan 16).

The underlying message was that the Israeli government felt free to attack Iran’s nuclear sites on its own if necessary and at a time of its choosing.

Why now? DEBKAfile suggests four reasons:

1. Washington has taken no action against Iran’s capture of the RQ-170 stealth drone on Dec. 4 more than a month after the event, and not even pressed President Obama’s demand of Dec. 12 for the drone’s return. Tehran, for its part, continues to make hay from the event …

2. Silence from Washington also greeted the start of 20-percent grade uranium enrichment at the underground Fordo facility near Qom when it was announced Jan. 9. Last November, Defense Minister Ehud Barak warned in two US TV interviews (Nov. 17 and 22) that as soon as the Fordo facility went on stream, Iran would start whisking the rest of its nuclear facilities into underground bunkers, out of reach and sight of US and Israeli surveillance.

Barak made it clear at the time that Israel could not live with this development; therefore, the Netanyahu government believes Israel’s credibility is now at stake.

3. Exactly three weeks ago, on Jan. 3 Lt. Gen. Ataollah Salehi, Iran’s Army chief, announced that the aircraft carrier USS Stennis and other “enemy ships” would henceforth be barred from entering the Persian Gulf through the Strait of Hormuz . Yet since then, no US carrier has put this threat to the test by attempting a crossing. Tehran has been left to crow.

4. Even after approving sanctions on Iran’s central bank and energy industry, the White House announced they would be introduced in stages in the course of the year. According to Israeli’s calculus, another six months free of stiff penalties will give Iran respite for bringing its nuclear weapon program to a dangerous and irreversible level.

So it does look very much as if the Israelis are planning to strike Iran. We hope they do.

 

Post Script: Commenters have more than once pointed out the unreliability of DEBKAfile. We agree with them, and will treat this source of information more skeptically in future.

  • Ralph

    It seems we have some obnoxious trolls on the site. I will not dignify their ravings with a reply. If you feed the trolls they will never go away.

  • I thought everybody knew DEBKA was a joke 10 years ago–are they still looking for Osama’s suitcase nukes?

  • Don L

    Iran…like the male flea floating down the river on his back, with a hard on…delusionally demanding they raise the draw bridge!  LOL. 
     
     The stupid little land of ‘un’.  Where there is no freedom and decentralized communes drive the economy. 
     
    the “un” said he isn’t muslim…hmmm?   His constant use of the ‘bitch’ suggests he’s intimate with the American rap gangstas.  Or, who else actually uses this except criminals and the ‘jersey shore’  garbage.

    He stays up on his ‘apparent’ country’s and the far left propaganda.  Just a guess but I think this guy’s some juvenile (atleast mentally) somewhere in the US…a terrorist on a campus someplace?

    Nyaaa na na Nyaa Na

     
     
     
     

    • un

      how ironic that you can’t come up with anything but childish ad hominem just as your co-religionists (yes, you’re all acting like members of a cult) are trying to lecture others about the merits of civil discourse.

      i just love it here, it’s even crazier and less factual than fox news.

    • Liz

      You just described Obama! – he must be using an alias. 

  • un

    addendum… it’s rich for fiscally conservative, free-market atheists to be such ardent supporters of israel.

    ironically, israel is a state built on the religious mythology of a people connected to a land through a lease agreement with the big G, it has socialized medicine for all of it’s citizens, it subsidizes ultra-religious zealots who won’t work because of their religion through welfare checks.

    even stupidity and hypocrisy has to have some boundaries.

    • Liz

      Ironically, the stupidity and hypocrisy of Israel is like a drop in the bucket compared to the oceans of it in Iran and every other barbarian muslim throwback to the 7th century.  There are certainly no boundaries to them there, or to arrogant self-righteousness, as you so eloquently demonstrate. 

      • un

        learn to read, dumb cunt. the stupidity and hypocrisy comment was in reference to people who paraded around as free-market, fiscally conservative atheists with regards to their support for israel.

        again, your ilk is so uneducated and stupid, your replies are more and more becoming worthless pieces of trash composed of making excuses for your own shortcomings by pointing at others, creating silly little pointless comparisons. if you can’t defend your actions on their own merits, what dos that say about the intellectual composition of your crowd?

      • un

        come on, i’ll give you one more chance as to why you, or any other atheist posting on these comments section, considers a state built on the doctrines of religious mythology to be morally justifiable. also, can you elaborate on how do you reconcile the fact that your taxpayer dollars are spent on financing the ultra-orthodox welfare kings, queens and their dozens of children? i happen to recall a huge uproar in conservative circles over a tiny amount of money being spent on a project in africa to prevent spread of aids.

        oh, if you can, justify your actions on their own merits. as an atheist, you should realize we don’t live in a world where rational conclusions might differ accordingly with the ethnicity or the religious beliefs of the subjects at hand. what’s good for the palestinian must be good for the israeli, and what’s good for the israeli must be good for the yank, that is unless you believe in some sort of subjective morality or parallel rationality.

        • Parent of senior

          Israel is a secular state. Read the Basic Law. Sadly, it is has followed the western lead of also becoming a welfare state. The Israeli left is second to none in ideological compassion.  It also has certain laws that were demanded by the religious (what constitutes a proper conversion for citizenship, marriage laws, exemptions from armed service – also offered to Arabs, by the way). 
          As egregious as we atheist conservatives may think welfare is – in America, Britain, Europe or Israel – we are still able to distinguish between a flawed liberal democracy and an evil theocracy. We are able to tell bad from disgusting. 
          Conclusions do indeed differ according to religious beliefs or any other ideology. The fundamentalist conclusions of religion are by definition irrational. Those of socialism demonstrably so. As for your saying that rational conclusions do not differ according to ethnicities, is that a rather confused way of saying that there are rational and irrational people of every ethnicity? I would say, though, to identify oneself with Marxist politics because one is black, brown, Muslim, working class, from a backward post-colonial despotism or the sad rump of an ancient civilization is not rational. History isn’t going to hand you ownership of the world – not even if it is helped along by revolutions, Occupations, or Springs –  anymore than Allah will provide virgins for exploded human bombs. 
           You should  refine your ability to distinguish qualitative difference – if you wish to be read and answered seriously. I get the impression that you really just want to practice your derision – anonymously and cost-free, of course. 
          And, by the way, if you’ve read what Palestinians say is good for them, you may not rationally conclude that what is good for the Palestinian is good for the Israeli. 

        • George

          America does indeed have a horrible and sordid past and admittingly so , however America has indeed evolved to be the most accepting nation anywhere of diverse groups.   For example –here in America people ffrom  other nations can practice their faith freely and openly , yet in many Muslim countries that is not allowed. In America , Muslims can build mosques, Jews can build temples, Buddhists can build shrines , etc, etc ,etc,  etc … However in many Muslim countries Christian churches ,  Jewish synagogues, Buddhist temples , secular buildings , etc are not allowed and non-Muslims are not allowed to bring their religious or secular books into the country.    Minor violations of law ( even the most trivial that harms no one ) is met with punnishment by death.   America evolved and is still evolving and no one on this website is making excuses for any of the negative or for that matter horrible actions that have taken place by any Americans or American leaders .   Many Americans have marched and demonstrated in the streets against wars, and political corruption and this is nothing recent.  
                               When during the Viet Nam era  , American soldiers committed the horrible massacre at Mi Lai , the American citizens and government was horrified and punishment as well as condemnation followed—-and justifiably so.   Once again , Massive waves of American citizens took to the streets and condemned such acts.    The problem we have in reciprocal is where is the massive condemnation in  Islamic countries when bombs , and slaughter is a routine daily occurance  ?   That’s a question , and can you answer the question without a hostile reply.   Just point it out to us—  Show us .    Tell us.
                                     Look around you , on a daily basis bombs are going off and people are being murdered  en mass  under the crescent flag.   Where is the widespread denunciation and effort to stop it ?   That’s another question and can you answer that sensible question without hostility ?
                                 For some reason we get the impression that you think that Americans think of ourselves as perfect and fault free. Nothing could be further from the truth. I don’t know where you get that impression but that is certainly NOT the case whatsoever.    I personally have critisized various actions and mentalities of certain groups of atheists probably as much as the theologians.   There is no “fault free ” group on earth , and the problem  I have with any group ( including my own ) is when attrocities occur , or corrupt actions occur and certain members ,  leaders , or representatives of the respective groups adamantly deny it.  

  • un

    “We continue to suspect that Obama wants to protect Iran from an Israeli attack on its nuclear installations.”
    correction, you should suspect that obama wants to protect americans from the fallout of an israeli attack on iran’s nuclear installations. iran has the ability to hurt israel dearly and an israeli attack will inevitably drag u.s. into the conflict in order to protect israel from destruction.

    “it was Israel Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, not the Obama
    administration, who decided to call off the biggest ever joint
    US-Israeli military exercise Austere Challenge 12 scheduled for April
    2012.”
    so you were wrong to jump to conclusions, yet again. i suggest you start evaluating your convictions as they have a habit of falling short of the reality.

    “Washington has taken no action against Iran’s capture of the RQ-170 stealth drone on Dec. 4 more than a month after the event”
    LMFAO 🙂 you shoot at someone and when the bullet misses, you feel like you are entitled to having it back? it doesn’t get more crazy and arrogant than that.

    “Silence from Washington also greeted the start of 20-percent grade
    uranium enrichment at the underground Fordo facility near Qom when it
    was announced Jan. 9”
    washington is not above the international law. 20-percent is not weapons grade and enrichment to this grade is the contractual right of every signatory of the NPT.

    “the Netanyahu government believes Israel’s credibility is now at stake.”
    that ship has sailed long ago.

    “Yet since then, no US carrier has put this threat to the test by attempting a crossing. Tehran has been left to crow.”
    this has more to do with tactical considerations. you’d have to be an idiot to try and pass camels(u.s. carriers) through the eye of the needle (strait of hormuz) when tensions are so high. they are practically open targets given the historical ineffectiveness of the missile defense systems.
    “Even after approving sanctions on Iran’s central bank and energy
    industry, the White House announced they would be introduced in stages
    in the course of the year.”
    a stupid idea in stages is still a stupid idea. americans will suffer a great deal as a result of these sanctions and that is a provable fact.