The Middle East Now 7

Letter to the Financial Times

Posted under middle east by Jillian Becker on Monday, August 26, 2013

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  • Dale Jensen

    Larry Auster on why Islam always results in political chaos.

    http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/020364.html

    We are currently in another wave of this eternal Muslim civil war, going
    on in several countries simultaneously. The West mistakes this Muslim
    civil war for a struggle for freedom. In reality it’s only a struggle
    for freedom by some Muslim groups against other Muslim groups that are
    currently dominating them, a struggle that can only end with a new
    oppression, until it is overthrown in its turn. That is the only
    “politics” that exists in the Muslim world. That is the only “politics”
    that will ever exist in the Muslim world.

    I don’t agree with everything he says in that post but his analysis of why Islam must lead to an “eternal civil war” is absolutely right to me.

    • WmarkW

      Good thesis, but it glosses somewhat over the Islamic countries of the European mainland — Kosovo, Albania and the European part of Turkey, which have certainly had internal problems, but are not constantly in anti-Western civil war. (I don’t have enough knowledge about the former Soviet republics of West Asia to comment on how much diversity they tolerate.)

      It could be that a people with positive experience of Western Civ, whether rooted in intellectual freedom or simply wealth, is willing to re-interpret Islam to accomodate their preference.

      • Dale Jensen

        You have a point. I wonder if it has something to do with the Arabs and other non Euro Muslims themselves. In other words, I wonder if it has something to do with biology. But it could also be cultural as you say. It seems that Islam always creates problems, but there are circumstances where it is restrained by outside forces. Still, why invite this virus into your country via immigration?

        • WmarkW

          I don’t know if it’s possible to distinguish cause and effect between the backwardness of Arab culture and of Islam. Whether there’s a hereditary intelligence component is possible, too, but at this point can’t be disentangled from the other causes to isolate it.

          The Quran is such poor quality literature that its alleged message of peace is easy to lose (if that’s the right term) among its glorification of violence. Giving it to a low-education population would be like telling the students in a middle school that they’re actually superior to the adults in the building. The result would be Lord of the Flies, which is about what the Middle East is.

          • Jillian Becker

            What message of peace? islam means submission, not peace as their propaganda claims. The Koran urges conquest, slaughter, enslavement, subjugation and cruelty.

  • liz

    Yes, if it wasn’t a bloody tragedy, it would be funnier than “who’s on first?”
    Our President’s sympathy for radical Islam has exacerbated the whole mess.

  • WmarkW

    OK, this was Europe up until World War I, except there are more non-governmental actors in the drama.

    As America celebrates the bicentennial of the War of 1812, let’s not forget that it was a theater of the Napoleonic wars, and we were on the side of Napoleon. George Washington kept us out of the War of the First Coalition, because the Federalists wanted to fight for Britain and the Democrats wanted to support France, so the only sensible thing was to remain neutral.