BS talks BS 7

The Democratic Party has a list of candidates for the presidency that looks more like a waiting list for a retirement home. One of them ought to be taking her retirement in prison.

The most ludicrous, and it would seem the most popular to judge by the crowds who flock to hear him, is an old commie from way back.

John Hinderaker critically examines his fusty notions at PowerLine:

Bernie Sanders, the front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination, spoke at Liberty University today. You can read his speech here. It is useful, in that it exposes the extent of Sanders’s ignorance and radicalism. Any deconstruction of a speech this bad must be selective.

I am far, far from being a perfect human being, but I am motivated by a vision, which exists in all of the great religions, in Christianity, in Judaism, in Islam and Buddhism, and other religions. And that vision is so beautifully and clearly stated in Matthew 7:12, and it states, “So in everything, do to others what you would have them to do to you, for this sums up the war and the prophets.

Bullshit. Islam does not teach that Muslims should do unto infidels as they would have infidels do unto them. …

It would be hard for anyone in this room today to make the case that the United States of America, our great country, a country which all of us love, it would be hard to make the case that we are a just society, or anything resembling a just society today. In the United States of America today, there is massive injustice in terms of income and wealth inequality. Injustice is rampant.

Bullshit. Inequality does not equal injustice. In fact, a society without unequal incomes and wealth would scarcely be worth living in. One wonders: what society, contemporary or ancient, does Sanders consider more just than ours? Soviet Russia? Maoist China? Communist Cuba? He doesn’t say, of course.

In my view, there is no justice, when here, in Virginia and Vermont and all over this country, millions of people are working long hours for abysmally low wages of $7.25 an hour, of $8 an hour, of $9 an hour, working hard, but unable to bring in enough money to adequately feed their kids.

Bullshit. There is a market for labor, whether Sanders likes it or not. Someone who wants to earn more than $7.25 an hour should gain skills and experience that are worth more than $7.25 an hour. Actually, hardly anyone works for that low wage, and 64% of those who do are working part-time. Half are aged 16 to 24, doing precisely what I said–gaining skills and experience so that they can advance and make more. Sanders wants to make it illegal for teenagers and part-timers to work for the wages they can command, even though they want to do so. He thereby dooms them to unemployment. Thanks, Bernie!

In the last two years, 15 people saw $170 billion increase in their wealth, 45 million Americans live in poverty. That in my view is not justice. That is a rigged economy, designed by the wealthiest people in this country to benefit the wealthiest people in this country at the expense of everybody else.

Bullshit. What does Sanders want to do about the fact that the people who founded Facebook have made a lot of money? Prohibit innovation? Limit the number of people who can access popular web sites? Make it illegal to sell advertising if the owners of the web site are already rich? The only “remedy” he can come up with is higher taxes, but America already has the most progressive income tax regime of any developed country–more progressive than Sweden, Denmark, you name it. And yet Democrats like Sanders keep telling us how awful things are for most Americans. Maybe we should try lower taxes on the “rich,” since the world’s highest taxes evidently haven’t worked. By the way, when Democrats talk about rich people, they always use Mark Zuckerberg–a Democrat, no doubt–as an exemplar, but when I read the fine print, I always find that they mean me.

People should not be dying in the United States of America when they are sick.What that is, is an indication that we are the only major country on earth that does not guarantee health care to all people as a right, and I think we should change that.

Bullshit. Sorry to break it to you, Bernie, but some sick people do die, even in socialist countries. Actually, for better or worse, the U.S. does guarantee health care to all people. Hospitals can’t turn anyone away, and poor people are on Medicaid. People who live in countries with socialized medicine come here for treatment if they are really sick, and if they can afford it. Let me know when residents of Rochester, Minnesota are booking flights to London so they can participate in Great Britain’s wonderful National Health Service.

In my view there is no justice in our country when youth unemployment exists at tragically high levels. I requested a study last month from a group of economists. And what they told me is that 51 percent of African American high school graduates between the ages of 17 and 20 are unemployed or underemployed — 51 percent.

Bullshit. This one is really galling. Why are black youths unemployed? Because the Obama economy is lousy. Because inner-city schools run by teachers’ unions suck. Because minimum wage laws, in some states, make it impossible for them to get jobs they realistically could perform. Because welfare, for many, is an attractive alternative. Because selling drugs is a good gig, now that police forces everywhere are on the defensive. In short, because of the policies that Bernie Sanders endorses. …

During the Q&A portion of the program, Sanders was asked how he would bring healing and resolution to the issue of racism as president.

I would hope and I believe that every person in this room today understands that it is unacceptable to judge people, to discriminate against people based on the color of their skin. 

Bullshit. Liberals enthusiastically endorse discrimination based on the color of people’s skin. It is called affirmative action.

And I would also say that as a nation – the truth is, that a nation which in many ways was created, and I’m sorry to have to say this, from way back on racist principles. That’s a fact. We have come a long way as a nation. 

Bullshit. The United States was founded on egalitarian principles which took a while to fully effectuate because the country was born in a world where slavery was common. (It still is, in many places where Anglo-American rule does not govern.) We fought a great civil war to validate the principles of our Constitution, whose promises of freedom had nothing to do with race, as Lincoln insisted. Granted, the Democratic Party fought a spirited rear-guard action on behalf of racism that lasted for more than a century. Bernie is an inheritor of that disgraceful history. …

But the point is that in 2008 this country took a huge step forward in voting for a candidate based on his ideas and not the color of his skin. 

Bullshit. No one would have imagined voting for Obama in 2008, but for the color of his skin. It was his only purported qualification for the office, and we have seen where that obsession with race has led us.

Next year, let’s have a genuinely color-blind election. On a level playing field, Bernie Sanders wouldn’t be disqualified by the color of his skin, but rather by the fact that his socialist ideas are idiotic.

Posted under Socialism, United States by Jillian Becker on Thursday, September 17, 2015

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  • Kerry

    Bullshit. Islam does not teach that Muslims should do unto infidels as they would have infidels do unto them. …

    This quotation is not correct. While the Koran does say many negative things
    against the unbeliever…infidel…about 60% of the verses, I think, it also has
    about 3% of its verses that speak about goodwill to humanity. I could make the
    same kind of argument about the Bible.
    In Deut. 17, it speaks of killing all those who do not worship the
    same God. I know, I know, gentle Jesus meek and mild came and changed all of that, but even some of the verses from the NT about loving your neighbor only applies if the neighbor is Jewish. Here is my point. Christians today are able to disregard passages they find unacceptable to the new norms. They have evolved since 30 AD. Muslims on the other hand still live in the 7th

    • There is NO equivalent of the Golden Rule in any teaching of Islam. Not in the Koran, not in the hadith. I searched for such a statement in vain. Even charity – zakat – goes ONLY to Muslims.

      I do not defend the nonsensical rules that pass for justice in Leviticus, but you are wrong when you say “the verses from the NT about loving your neighbor only applies if the neighbor is Jewish” See Deut. 10.19: “Love therefore the stranger …’ [Of course what was meant by love was respect – not love in the sentimental Christian sense, not agape.)

      The one part of the Koran that I recognize as saying something that could be descibed as “goodwill to humanity” is the part about if you save one person … But that is a quotation from Jewish scripture – as the Koran itself indicates.

      Please quote or give the reference to others if you know them. (Don’t forget aboout abrogation – later verses abrogating earlier ones.)

      • Kerry

        OK this is why I like to be challenged. I may have miss spoke as it relates to the Koran. Not may have…I did. While 60% is negative on infidels, the other 35 is negative on women, I think. I went back through a few notes I had accumulated a
        while ago. I am certainly no expert. I cannot tell you about the abrogation as I do not know which one is the oldest
        and therefore more powerful. And, please do not think for one moment that I in any way endorse, coddle, entertain, or otherwise accommodate Islam. I am just so weary of absolutes. Usually when people make the kind of absolute statement as was made here I recoil. In the end I must admit he is correct. There is NO golden rule of similar value in the Koran. Thank you for this valuable lesson. I can now dispense with the statement I often make that all religions contain a Golden Rule principle.

        There is this statement in the Sunnah, which is as close as it gets. “No one of you is a believer until he desires for his brother that which he desires for himself.” That is not the
        Koran however, which is the point.

        There are many benign passages like “If they incline towards peace, then incline towards peace as well.”
        This is not the discussion though. Koran 3:92 says, “You will not attain righteousness till you spend in charity of the things you love.”

        This one is closer…”But indeed if any show patience and
        forgive, that would truly be an exercise of courageous will and resolution in the conduct of affairs. ” Koran 42:43.
        And maybe this one, “Hold to forgiveness; command what is right; But turn away from the ignorant. ” Koran 7:199

        Most of my Muslim friends like to quote from the sayings of Mohammad…but this is also not the Koran. I get it! I only add for thoroughness.
        “Forgive him who wrongs you; join him who cuts you off; do good to him who does evil to you, and speak the truth although it be against yourself.”
        “The three best things: to be humble amidst the vicissitudes of fortune; to pardon when powerful; and to be generous with no strings attached.”

        Other teachings are from the Truth Collection of al-Hisn al-Hasi like “Be conscious of God and speak always the truth.” Or like “God is kind and likes kindness in all things.” (Rihadh us-Saleheen, Volume 1:633)

        There is also a Hadith that says “Make your character good for people.”

        None of these in anyway detract from the majority of clear teachings that are..well…bullshit!

      • Kerry

        I have an interesting and most current update to
        this discussion. I am presently in Dubai, and had opportunity to meet some Muslim friends for lunch in a restaurant just off a food court in one of the local malls. On a huge screen, visible from where we were seated, verses of the Koran were flashed with a translation into English. Surprisingly, many, in fact
        most all, of these verses were highly offensive to Christians. Many condemning all that did not follow Allah to hell. So….me, being the usual provocative conversationalist that I am accused of being, calmly asked a couple of probing questions.

        Didn’t my friends think those verses were a little insensitive to the infidels? (In the US I might have said I was OFFENDED since that is the new catch-all word) I shared that I did not so much think in America we would flash verses in a mall of condemnation to hell should one not follow Christ. I pointed out that this could certainly be done quoting from the Bible. They kind of shrugged and said that it is also important that
        non-believers know what is in store for them should they not believe. Naturally, I inquired as to whether the verses on cutting off of heads would also appropriate. Of course not, was the response. Why, I asked, if it is part of the Koran, would it be inappropriate? They had no response and just looked at the table. I then asked a more comfortable question…from Sura 16, “Allah could have led everyone to the truth, but he chose
        not to.” Why was that? It was the same kind of answer Christians give as to why not everyone will get into Heaven.

        I could not let it stay there of course. These are friends. The husband, about my age, is as steeped in Islam as I
        was in Christianity. My friend brought his third wife to the lunch. (1 of the 4 he has) She is quite a bit younger. She does not wear the abaya (black body covering), but she does wear the hijab (hair/head veil). Her stretch pants were tight and her clothes definitely showed her feminine curves. You know where I am going here…I asked how it is that a devout Muslim could
        dress in such manner. I quickly added, not that I am complaining, but if a man would sin by looking at your hair, how much more must he sin by observing your curves, or should I say, “your ornaments” as Mohammad called it. Could this
        really be what Mohammad had in mind in the 7th Century? Well as you can imagine this brought out a spiel of justification such
        as I heard my whole life in the Christian world. (Miniskirts, long hair on guys, halter tops, tattoos, etc.) I said I understood and mentioned that the Muslim community was really just 1500 years behind the Christian world in that regard, but they would probably catch up.

        Next I asked if there was any such verse in the Koran like unto the Golden Rule which is a precept in most all of the world’s
        other major religions. They responded that of course there is. I asked for chapter and verse in the Koran. They could not quote me one Sura although I must admit they did an excellent job of trying to convince me that the intent of such and such a verse is this concept. I told them, nicely, that I did not buy it.

        I then shared that the problem as I see it is that there is so much hatred, anger, condemnation, and misogyny in the Koran
        that allowed the Imans to interpret, rightfully I believed, that Islam was not the Religion of Peace that they wanted the world to believe it was. I asked what they thought of Dubai with the liquor, prostitutes, and gambling (horse and camel racing). How does that square? They admitted it did not, but they were willing to overlook it. Ah…there it was, a private interpretation.
        Dubai provides a “quality of life” such that every Saudi that can escape from there does so and comes to Dubai for a little “living.” (I must share this…one up-scale hotel I used to stay at quite often decided to suspend the “working girls” that trolled the second floor bar. This only lasted for two months
        because without the girls, none of the Saudi’s that frequented the hotel would stay there. Now the girls are back and so are the Saudi’s. The hotel lost, according to my friend that works there, about 60% of their usual revenue in those two months.)

        We talked for more then 3 hours on these topics. I am not shy in these matters! We talked about how the Arab world is in flames. Why it was so many in the Muslim world wanted to
        go the West, The Great Satan, as a sanctuary. How was it that the West could provide such peace and comfort, safety and hope? It was a great conversation. All in all a most enjoyable afternoon and I hope I planted seeds. I did of course share my journey to atheism in the discussion.

        Side note…if you google “offensive verses in the Koran” you will find all of those websites blocked in Dubai! Of course, I had
        my computer and shared this with them. I asked why. Why were the words of Allah being hidden? They did a Hillary! Conversely, I googled “offensive verses in the Bible” and lo and behold none were blocked! Imagine my surprise.

        • Big thanks, Kerry!

          It’s a fascinating anecdote.

          You have courage to pursue such questions in an Arab Islamic country.

  • Kerry

    This is excellent! Well said! I should like to send this among to some of my “Bernie” friends that I meet on line. It might be fun although I am quite sure it may cause not a few aneurysms.

  • liz

    Great article!
    Yes, it is total BS that anyone voted for Obama based on his ideas, which are the same idiotic socialist ideas of Bernie Sanders, added to even worse Islamofascist ideas.
    He got votes only because most were totally IGNORANT about his ideas, like good useful idiots.
    Sanders is the epitome of the old radical leftist hippie who’s brain is fried into a permanent fixation on racism and social injustice.