Wee, wee, wee, wee all the way home 8

Obama finds the job of being president too hard, hands over to Bill Clinton, and bolts home to Mother Michelle.

From a first-hand account:

Here’s what I saw. I saw a current president who has never looked less interested in doing his job. I also saw a former president who never lost interest in doing that job. Obama’s demeanor and body language suggested that he’d rather be anywhere but where he was, and then he followed through and actually bolted for the door. Clinton’s demeanor was that of a passionate wonk trying to sell a policy he actually cared about, that he thought would be good for the country. It didn’t matter that it wasn’t even his own policy that he was selling.

I saw a president who … ceded his job to his predecessor. …

It was far and away the weirdest presidential press briefing I’ve ever seen. Where Obama goes from here is anyone’s guess.

Update: Real Clear Politics has a video of the spectacle. Obama actually interrupts Clinton delivering an answer, to say his bit about keeping the first lady waiting, before hitting the exit. Clinton says, “I don’t want to make her mad, just go” and waves POTUS on his way …

Most commentators on this incident have interpreted it as a tacit admission by Obama that he cannot defend the tax agreement he reached with congressional Republicans.

It is that, but we wonder if it isn’t also the most vivid sign yet that Obama cannot cope emotionally or intellectually with the job he was elected to do as president.

Is he in the early stages of mental derangement?

Posted under Commentary, Miscellaneous, News, United States by Jillian Becker on Monday, December 13, 2010

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  • REAL Atheist

    This site is a fake. Fundamentalists masquerading as atheists. As all fundamentalists do, it practices censorship and the adoration of blind dogma.

    Compare and contrast….

    [“Many of my friends are religious. We are perfectly tolerant of each other’s ideas, as we are rational beings.)”]

    [“If you’ve read much of our site at all you’ll know perfectly well that we hold creationist and bible-literalist views – and indeed all religious belief – in utter contempt.”]

    But NOT the bible-literalist Lord Monckton.

    For your next trick will you go north & south, up & down simultaneously?

    F A K E- S I T E

  • Mrs. Neutron

    Is he in the early stages of mental derangement? Or, is he quite sanely beginning to “show” what he knows to be the case?
    “It’s ALL Absurd!”

    America has no use for a middle class… they are not only redundant, but a pain in the ass. The stage is set for America to wake up from its dream of a chicken in every pot. We have had generations of untapped resources and free land for the taking. Those days are done. It’s a Global World now and it’s time for us all to wake up. The world is FULL of people just getting their heads above abject poverty. THAT is where the money is! NOT HERE. Here all we have are fat people wanting someone else to pay for their MRI and new knee…. Students who don’t want to learn and fundamentalist nut cases awaiting the Rapture.
    Things will just go back to normal. A handful of very rich and an enormous amount of poor. When people who think Social Security, Medicare and unions “caused” this… Glenn Beck will be nowhere to be found. People will learn what our ancestors knew just a short while ago. A cold house in winter, poor farms for the aged and pulling your own teeth isn’t “really” freedom at all.
    The world could NEVER come up to our level of waste and hubris…. so, we will descend. Obama and the rest know this. Some are just better at keeping a straight face while the looting continues than others. That’s all.

    • Jillian Becker

      Such an outcry of pessimism! A rather Hobbesian view in part – as explained in this article

      http://www.american.com/archive/2010/december/human-nature-and-capitalism/?searchterm=Human%20Nature%20and%20Capitalism

      Titled “Human Nature and Capitalism” the article is quite good (though it has its flaws – such as asserting that David Hume’s philosophy is “aligned with Christian teaching”, whereas in fact David Hume was an atheist).

      It is pro-capitalist, which we like, as well as pro-Christian, which we don’t.

      • Oh, I wouldn’t call it pessimism Jillian.

        That was an interesting link. Unfortunately (or fortunately), we know much more about “human nature” than they did then. Consider these two paragraphs from that piece.

        …”But capitalism, like American democracy itself, is hardly perfect or sufficient by itself. It has a troubling history, as well as a glorious one. And, like America, it is an ongoing, never-ending experiment, neither self-sustaining nor self-executing. Capitalism requires strong, vital, non-economic and non-political institutions—including the family, churches and other places of worship, civic associations, and schools—to complement it. Such institutions are necessary to allow capitalism to advance human progress.

        A capitalist society needs to produce an educated citizenry. It needs to be buttressed by people who possess and who teach others virtues such as sympathy, altruism, compassion, self-discipline, perseverance, and honesty. And it needs a polity that will abide by laws, contracts, and election results (regardless of their outcome). Without these virtues, venality can eat capitalism from within and use it for pernicious ends.”…

        [the key phrase being: ..”venality can eat capitalism from within and use it for pernicious ends”…

        The author begins with: …”The model of human nature one embraces will guide and shape everything else, from the economic system one prefers to the political system one supports.”… And, THAT is incorrect. It isn’t any model of human nature that creates or shapes a reality. It’s “culture”!

        If you have the time, I wrote a short piece about it a few days ago.
        http://mrsneutronsgarage.wordpress.com/2010/11/28/cultural-confusion-or-a-nation-of-mutts/

        You must, I think, not forget that, to the best of my knowledge, NO nation (let alone empire) has ever survived multiple cultures for long. Perhaps my position seems extreme to you. I understand. But, remember I live in a state where our Governor is firmly convinced that the Earth is 6000 years old and that children once played with dinosaurs. He is, and he will be the first to tell you, VERY Conservative.
        I too am conservative. I have two children, both academics teaching at Ivy League Universities.
        Please be kind enough to help me out. How in the name of what ever it is you call holy can I EVER trust my government to function properly when it is so OBVIOUSLY in the hands of what I consider “loonies”?

        • Jillian Becker

          I find it difficult to follow you.

          As I said, the article has its flaws. I don’t think we need churches to make capitalism work, and the schools in the Western world nowadays mostly teach communism. Compassion is what unscrupulous and hypocritical advocates of “social justice” hide behind. And altruism has a permanent question mark over it. And I’m not sure that absolutely every election result should be abided by. And I don’t see that capitalism has a troubling history.

          I do think we need the law. The enforcement of contract is vital to a market economy. Self-discipline, perseverance and honesty are usually helpful.

          I sent the link to the article because I thought you were expressing a Hobbesian view of human nature. That’s the best I was able to glean from your comment. I have now read your article. It also leaves me rather puzzled. You seem to have an original point of view, but I’m not sure what it is. That could be because I’m obtuse, or because you don’t explain yourself well.

          I also went to the piece on your site which I think is intended to be a satire making mock of of Lord Christopher Monckton. Like most people, I like to think I have a sense of humor, but I didn’t find it funny. I have the pleasure of being acquainted with Lord Monckton. For many years I’ve known him to be a decent, honorable, sober, intelligent, brave man, whose point of view on “global warming” and the dangerous political ends it was invented to serve I entirely share. (Lord Monckton is a Catholic. Many of my friends are religious. We are perfectly tolerant of each other’s ideas, as we are rational beings.) What does your contributor’s guying of him achieve? What is it meant to say? Does the writer even know? Is the writer a very young adolescent? It’s an ugly bit of pointless self-indulgent clowning actually.

          Multiculturalism is a bad idea and a failure. There at least I think we agree.

          I call nothing holy.

          “OBVIOUSLY in the hands of WHAT I CONSIDER”? Is it obvious – ie. an objectively observable fact, or is it your private idea – ie. subjective?

          And is it your state government you’re still complaining of at that point, or the federal government?

          What should you do? Vote it out, or move.

          What have your children to do with what you’re saying?

          Certainly one’s culture – and very much one’s language which is of course a large part of one’s culture – shapes one’s Weltanchauung. But within any culture there is ample room for disagreement. Three people, ten opinions.

          I can’t help wondering whether your meaning is not clear because you are not clear yourself about what you’re trying to say. But of course I may be wrong. Your thought might perhaps be just too subtle for me.

        • Mrs Neutron

          Since I seem unable to respond to you directly Julian I will attempt a short answer here. This site is called THE ATHEIST CONSERVATIVE.
          How can one possibly call oneself an atheist and not see someone who boldly claims the earth to be 6000 years old and the universe to be run by “magic”….. as a looney?

          Now, you have ME confused.

          [first you write]… “(Lord Monckton is a Catholic. Many of my friends are religious. We are perfectly tolerant of each other’s ideas, as we are rational beings.)

          [Then you write]… “Multiculturalism is a bad idea and a failure. There at least I think we agree.”

          So, Lord Whatshisname speaks at Liberty University where UNIVERSITY students are taught evolution is a scam and the earth is 6000 years old and God hates homosexuals. You, it appears, think it is the mark of a “rational man” to be, in your words “perfectly tolerant” of such flagrant religious dogma and those who spread it.
          But, in your words “Multiculturalism is a bad idea and a failure.”

          Multiculturalism IS conflicting world views.

          If it is a failure and this site is called ATHEIST CONSERVATIVE it seems that you have a choice.
          Change the name
          Make up your mind what culture you are of.
          The idea you can have it both ways is absurd.

          My point of view is not original. Are you at all familiar with TMT? Terror Management Theory? Psychologists and cultural anthropologists have long recognized the place various denial of death schemes play in both politics and economics.
          With all due respect, I think you hold the idea of pure conservatism “holy”. If not, why would you claim such strange bedfellows?

          I suspect you are not an atheist at all. If you were the idea of teaching children that people who do not agree with religious dogma will be punished for eternity would be repugnant to you. You state multiculturalism is a failure… then embrace it as the mark of “rational beings”.

          you write: “I like to think I have a sense of humor”

          Everybody does Jillian. But, they don’t.

        • Jillian Becker

          This is a reply to your last comment beginning”Since I seem unable to respond to you directly …”

          (Disqus moves in mysterious ways its wonders to perform.)

          The fact that Lord Monckton spoke at this Liberty University you write of does not mean he shares their stupid views.

          If you’ve read much of our site at all you’ll know perfectly well that we hold creationist and bible-literalist views in utter contempt.

          I don’t think you know what “multiculturalism” means. It means letting millions of Muslims into Europe and not requiring them to learn the language of the country they live in, not obeying its laws, setting up sharia courts, residing in self-chosen ghettoes and turning them into no-go areas, refusing to integrate – while taking all the entitlements that those welfare states pour over everyone until they go bankrupt, which some of them already are.

          “Multiculturalism” does not mean a difference of opinion about ideas, whether religious or anything else.

          I have never heard of Terror Management Theory. There are hundreds of crackpot theories that psychologists and cultural anthropologists and sociologists hold that I have never heard of and am none the worse for not hearing of.

          I don’t think any further discussion between you and me would be fruitful.

        • Mrs Neutron

          I see Jillian. Multiculturalism only means “letting millions of Muslims into Europe”.

          What ever gave me the idea that there were more than two cultures?

          As you say:… “”Multiculturalism” does not mean a difference of opinion about ideas, whether religious or anything else.” (Really?)

          Then there is this: ..”I have never heard of Terror Management Theory. There are hundreds of crackpot theories that psychologists and cultural anthropologists and sociologists hold that I have never heard of and am none the worse for not hearing of. ”

          So, without knowing ANYTHING about something you can determine what IS crackpot [see: Lord Monckton] and what isn’t.

          Change your headline to .. IGNORANCE IS BLISS

          There is nothing conservative about someone who makes the kind of statements you make, let alone attempts to silence other real conservatives for pointing out you are a fake.